“If you owe the bank $100 that’s your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.” J. Paul Getty
Individual mortgage holders are in the first situation; together they are in the second.
I want to look into this whole situation of freezing some adjustable rates (that are scheduled to increase for adjustable rate mortgages) more – because I don’t really understand what is actually involved in the “agreement.” But my impression is that the government is paying nothing, giving no other incentives (like reducing taxes owed). With that being the case I can’t see why some people think it is bad. some people are saying it is unfair to people that were careful They don’t get this benefit. That makes little sense to me. One of the things you have to learn about investing and personal finance is there are no guaranties. You enter into mortgages with your best guess about what will happen (as the lender or the one receiving the loan).
From my very surface understanding of what is involved is that the government used some moral suasion to try and get lenders to step up and provide more favorable terms than originally agreed to. I not that confident such a think we end up happening in practice but I don’t have a problem with the attempt. It is an interesting case where no single mortgage holder owes enough to harm the lenders but together the class does hold enough to harm them. So the lenders have gotten themselves into a situation where the problem is not just one for the mortgage holders but one that could harm them (because they have too much lent to the class – risky residential mortgages).
The risk of a cascading bad impact. One waive of foreclosures triggers another and another… Thus creating huge losses for lenders. For that reason it makes sense to me that if (which is a huge if) they class of lenders can all agree to sacrifice some to avoid starting the runaway cascade of foreclosures they may benefit. Of course each individual lender would likely benefit if just everyone but them sacrificed.
It seems to me if there really is some significant amount of freezing of loan rates that will have a significant impact on how much harm the foreclosures do to real estate prices and the economy. And so I can see how such an agreement could benefit everyone. But as I say I really need to read more about all this. And I am skeptical that individual lenders will try to limit there sacrifices and as each cuts back there sacrifice the risk of the cascade increases.
An actually bailout – government money paying off those that took bad financial risks I would be very reluctant to support.
Related: How Not to Convert Equity – Housing Inventory Glut – mortgage terms explained – 30 year fixed Mortgage Rates – Homes Entering Foreclosure at Record – Ignorance of Many Mortgage Holders – Beginning of the End of Housing Bubble? (April 2004)
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Goldman Sachs Rakes In Profit in Credit Crisis
But for Goldman’s chief executive, Lloyd C. Blankfein, this is turning out to be a very good year. He will surely earn more than the $54.3 million he made last year. If he gets a 20 percent raise – in line with the growth of Goldman’s compensation pool – he will take home at least $65 million. Some expect his pay, which is directly tied to the firm’s performance, to climb as high as $75 million.
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This contrast in performance has been hard for competitors to swallow. The bank that seems to have a hand in so many deals and products and regions made more money in the boom and, at least so far, has managed to keep making money through the bust. In turn, Goldman’s stock has significantly outperformed its peers. At the end of last week it was up about 13 percent for the year, compared with a drop of almost 14 percent for the XBD, the broker-dealer index that includes the leading Wall Street banks. Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns and Citigroup are down almost 40 percent this year.
Interesting story with at least a couple of good points to remember. First it does make a difference what company you chose. There are many market conditions where anyone can make money, but those conditions will change. Also look at the type of pay these people get. The CEO’s take huge risks to possibly get even more obscenely paid. It is absolutely no surprise to me the companies write off hundreds of millions in losses. It happens constantly. Executives are paid ludicrous salaries. In order to try and justify them they take huge risks. When the gambles pay off they pocket even huger bonuses. When they fail they pocket huge severance packages. Who wouldn’t bet the future of the company for that kind of money. Some people wouldn’t but not many that fight there way to the top of the corporate world. Right now it is banks writing off hundreds of millions but just watch every year companies do it. It is not some isolated rare event – it is predictable, common happening.
And third the financal markets are much riskier than people think. Combine that with leverage and you get huge swings – huge profits and huge losses. I suppose some company may be able to guess just write about when to leverage and make the changes at just the right time – but I doubt it. A few great investors might be able too much of the time.
Frontline World traveled to Uganda to explore the impact of microfinance and provide some great details on how Kiva is bringing economic opportunity to entrepreneurs. The site includes details and a nice webcast. It is great to see how people can connect directly using Kiva. And it is great to see how people can take small loans and some effort and financial literacy to make a living for themselves. The effort of these entrepreneurs to manage their finances would benefit many people in the rich world plan for retirement…
As I have mentioned before, if you loan through Kiva send me a link to your Kiva page and I can add it to the Curious Cat Kivans page.
Related: Make the World Better Using Capitalism – Helping People Help Themselves – Make the World Better – How Rich are You
The Motely Fool is one of the best web sites for learning about investing (it is one of the sites included in our investing links – on the left column of this page). A recent article on the site is worth reading – Ways to Retire Sooner:
Embrace stocks Saving more is great, but there’s only so much you’ll be able to put aside. You have to make the most of what you have. People are often too conservative in their retirement investments. Despite the sometimes-violent ups and downs of the stock market, the long-term return on stocks far exceeds that of less risky investments like bonds and bank savings accounts.
These are not exactly earth shattering recommendation but so many people fail to take even the most basic steps to assure a economically viable retirement the simple advice needs to be re-enforced. No one piece of advice can assure success but by educating yourself about investing and retirement planning and taking steps when you are in your 20s, 30s and 40s you can succeed. You can also succeed without doing anything in your 20s it just means you have to do more work later. Those that get started earlier get a huge advantage.
Related: Saving for Retirement – Retirement Tips from TIAA CREF – Retiring Later, Out of Necessity – investment risks – IRA (Individual Retirement Accounts)
Pressure rises against bottled water. This item is really more about just thinking than personal finance but since I get to decide what to write I decided to post it here. I could have posted in on the Curious Cat Science and Engineering Blog. But when I see so many silly people paying way more for water than the $85 a barrel oil I hope that it is just because they don’t think not that they can’t think. Plus I just posted: Bottled Water Waste a few months ago.
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Salt Lake City Mayor Ross Anderson said, “When I see people at the airport go over to a vending machine and waste their money buying bottled water at the vending when it’s standing right next to a water faucet, you really have to wonder at the utter stupidity and the responsibility sometimes of American consumers.”
Wow, very blunt and very true. Related: Ignorance of Many Mortgage Holders – Too Much Stuff – Shop Around for Drugs
First, it is sad that college students are so lame they can’t even understand basic personal finance concepts like high interest credit card debt is very bad. But millions of them seem to actually be that lame (not exactly a great sign from our future leaders :-/). The credit card companies actually claim: “Our overall approach toward college students is to help them build good financial habits and a credit history that prepares them for a lifetime of successful credit use.” Does anyone believe this? A related articles discussed how much cash universities were taking from credit card companies: The Dirty Secret of Campus Credit Cards.
It really isn’t that hard to do the right thing. Credit card companies have learned to profit by gauging their customers. If they claim that they are trying to teach good financial habit then the university to set up a contract to favor that. If bad practices occur (students not paying off the full balance say) they the credit card companies don’t get to make a profit on that – since it would be rewarding failure by the credit card company. How you want to do this is up to you but I can’t think of several ways. It is pretty simple – don’t let the credit card companies profit by encouraging stupid credit card use – like they do now.
Yes, creating a climate where the universities focus on the credit card companies actually doing what they say they want to do is a new way of thinking. But paying universities millions to market exorbitantly expensive financial products that harm students finances and teach them bad financial lessons is not some grand tradition passed down from Cambridge 200 years ago. Obviously neither side minds doing things differently for the right amount of cash. Lets see if they mind doing so to help the students learn. My guess is they will mind doing that. But I will be happy if I am proved wrong. My guess is that some schools would (and maybe even are doing this) – some schools really do care about helping their students learn.
The universities could choose to use their clout to help student instead of just getting a big payday for themselves. That would be a good lesson for students to learn. Much more effective then telling students they really should act ethically and not only chase after the dollars after they graduate. Such “advice” rings pretty hollow if you see that same university selling students out for a quick buck.
Related: Poor “Customer Service” from Discover Card – Credit Card Tips – Don’t Let the Credit Card Companies Play You for a Fool
Some pretty amazing statistics are in this article – Homes entering foreclosure at record:
Serious delinquencies, those 90 days or more late, jumped to 1.11 percent of all loans, from 0.98 percent in the first quarter. The loans actually entering foreclosure proceedings stood at 0.65 percent, a rise from 0.58 percent in the first three months – and the highest rate in the MBA’s 55-year history.
This quote however is a bit misguided I think:
Stagnant home prices have not taken a toll on housing affordability. Yes people that put nothing down and took out mortgage where they could not pay the monthly payments and planned to just borrow even more from the house if the house price went up can’t afford it – but they couldn’t afford it in the first place.
Related: Learning About Mortgages – Mortgage Defaults: Latest Woe for Housing – Ignorance of Many Mortgage Holders – Median Housing Prices Down 1.5% in the Last Year – How Not to Convert Equity
But I have a nasty little secret for you, folks. If you use realistic numbers rather than what I call WAAP – Washington Accepted Accounting Principles – the real federal deficit for the current fiscal year is more than 2-1/2 times the stated deficit.
What is going on? The same old story. Those in charge of spending the money in Washington like to use deceptive tactics to try and trick people that don’t know any better. For example, if the government incurs a deferred liability to pay $100 Billion dollars in future social security payments this year and invests that money in treasury bonds they act like the government didn’t spend that money. Of course it did, they took $100 billion in social security taxes and spent it to build bridges to nowhere, pay huge corporate welfare payments, other worthless wastes, even worthwhile things etc..
Related: USA Federal Debt Now $516,348 Per Household – Washington Paying Out Money it Doesn’t Have – Concord Coalition
Credit freeze stops identity theft cold (link broken, so it was removed):
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But the landscape is improving with security freezes, a safeguard promoted by Consumers Union (the nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports) and other consumer groups that has been adopted in 37 states, including California, and the District of Columbia.
A freeze essentially locks up the information needed to conduct a credit check, and creditors won’t open new accounts without that check. An imposter will be foiled, but you can lift the freeze using a PIN if you want to open new accounts. A security freeze provides much stronger protection than the fraud alert currently available under federal law.
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Credit bureaus also make big bucks from selling to consumers more expensive credit-monitoring services, which are unnecessary, especially when a security freeze is in place. Consumers Union has asked the Federal Trade Commission to help inform consumers about security freezes.
See if your state has protected citizens or is not doing what it should: credit freeze status by state.
Related: Real Free Credit Report – Credit Card Tips – links on identity theft
A few months ago we posted on the effect your FICO (“credit”) score would have on your mortgage payment. Given turmoil in the credit markets we though it would be interesting to revisit that post.
Example 30 year mortgage rates (from myfico.com – see site for current rate estimates):
| FICO score | APR May | APR Aug | payment/mo May | payment/mo Aug |
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| 760-850 | 5.86% | 6.27% | $2,362 | $2,467 |
| 700-759 | 6.08% | 6.49% | $2,419 | $2,525 |
| 660-699 | 6.37% | 6.77% | $2,493 | $2,600 |
| 620-659 | 7.18% | 7.58% | $2,709 | $2,819 |
| 580-619 | 8.82% | 9.32% | $3,167 | $3,311 |
| 500-579 | 9.68% | 10.31% | $3,416 | $3,603 |
Amounts shown for borrowing $400,000 and rates as of May 7th. For scores above 620, the APRs above assume a mortgage with 1.0 points and 80% Loan-to-Value Ratio. For scores below 620, these APRs assume a mortgage with 0 points and 60 to 80% Loan-to-Value Ratio.
Frankly I was expecting the rates to show the widely reported expanding of the risk premium (charging increasingly higher rates for riskier borrowers). For example, in May the difference was 382 basis points (9.68% for the lowest FICO range and 5.86% for the highest. However the current difference is just 404 basis points – hardly a big increase. The reason must be that the MyFICO page shows rates for homes with 20% down at the high end of scores and 20-40% down below there.
Related: 30 Year Fixed Rate Mortgage Rates – Learning About Mortgages