In the webcast interview above Warren Buffett and Bill Gates discuss business, health care, economics, wall street, the Fed and more. Both agree the health care system is far too expensive and needs to be fixed. And both agree the current reforms are far too small and seem to do little to address the core problems with incentives and entrenched interests maintaining system in need of reform.
Both also agree the future is bright for the USA and the world economically. The innovation possible will may well come from more locations in the next century but those innovations will also come from the USA.
Warren Buffett also defends the independent Federal Reserve board system.
Related: Warren Buffet Webcast to MBAs – Advice from Warren Buffett UT at Austin business school – Bill Gates: Capitalism in the 21st Century
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BECKY: All right. Let me go at this another way. Let’s pretend you’re on a desert island for a month. There’s only one set of numbers you can get. What would it be?
BUFFETT: Well, I would probably look at– perhaps freight car loadings and– perhaps– and– and truck tonnage moved and– but I’d want to look at a lot of figures.
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BUFFETT: Well, I think that– unfortunately, I think that the — what– what– we’re really talking about reforming health insurance more than health care. So I– the incentives that produce the 16 or so percent of GDP that’s going to health care, I think unfortunately they’re getting– they’re going to get changed. But– so I think that we really– and I’m talking as much about reforming health care as we’re talking about reforming the insurance. And I think that will be an opportunity missed if we don’t do more about looking at what– what the incentives are in the present system and what they would be in an ideal system.
Related: Buffett’s Fix for the Economy (Oct 2008) – Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis – Warren Buffett on Taxes – Many Experts Say Health-Care System Inefficient, Wasteful
The Greenback Effect by Warren Buffett
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Because of this gigantic deficit, our country’s “net debt” (that is, the amount held publicly) is mushrooming. During this fiscal year, it will increase more than one percentage point per month, climbing to about 56 percent of G.D.P. from 41 percent. Admittedly, other countries, like Japan and Italy, have far higher ratios and no one can know the precise level of net debt to G.D.P.
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Legislators will correctly perceive that either raising taxes or cutting expenditures will threaten their re-election. To avoid this fate, they can opt for high rates of inflation, which never require a recorded vote and cannot be attributed to a specific action that any elected official takes.
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Our immediate problem is to get our country back on its feet and flourishing — “whatever it takes” still makes sense. Once recovery is gained, however, Congress must end the rise in the debt-to-G.D.P. ratio and keep our growth in obligations in line with our growth in resources.
Unchecked carbon emissions will likely cause icebergs to melt. Unchecked greenback emissions will certainly cause the purchasing power of currency to melt. The dollar’s destiny lies with Congress.
Related: Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis – The Long-Term USA Federal Budget Outlook – Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2008 – Federal Reserve to Buy $1.2 Trillion in Bonds, Mortgage-Backed Securities
Each year Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger answer questions in front of crowds of tens of thousands of Berkshire Hathaway shareholders in Omaha, Nebraska. The question and answer sessions provide great wisdom on economics, investing and management. Here are some of the highlights I have found from the meeting yesterday.
Buffett, Munger praise Google’s ‘moat’
Berkshire’s Buffett Calls Wells Fargo ‘Fabulous’ Bank
The stock closed at $19.61 yesterday after falling below $9 in March. Buffett said he was speaking to a class the day the shares dropped that low and told students that, at that price, “If I had to put all of my net worth into stock, that would be the stock.â€
Buffett, who has said he values lenders partly on their ability to acquire funds from depositors, told shareholders today that he’d “love” to buy the entire bank and is unable to do so because Berkshire wouldn’t get permission from regulators.
But he warned that efforts such as the Treasury’s $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program and the $787 billion fiscal stimulus plan passed this year by Congress will have to be paid for, one way or another. And with political leaders showing little inclination to raise taxes, one sure way to pay for excess spending is to inflate the value of the currency, Buffett said. The biggest losers in a surge of inflation, he added, would include holders of bonds and other fixed-income assets.
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“Government does need to step in,” Buffett said, referring to the 6% contraction of the U.S. economy in the fourth quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009.
That’s not to say he is pleased with the earmarks Congress has attached to some of the rescue legislation. Inevitably, Buffett said, when big organizations turn massive resources on a problem, “there’s a fair amount of slop.”
Related: Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2008 – Warren Buffett’s Letter to Shareholders 2009 – Great Advice from Warren Buffett – Warren Buffett’s 2004 Annual Report
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Warren Buffett is really someone worth listening to. This is a short talk he gave to MBA students and then he answers questions for over an hour. I think he is speaking at the University of Florida in 1998.
Here is a great quote to remember as you invest (from part 2): “To make money they didn’t have and didn’t need, they risked what they did have and did need. And that’s foolish.” That goes for anyone I think. He was talking about the geniuses behind Long Term Capital Management (and the collapse about a decade ago – for those of you that think finance people risking serious harm to the economy for their personal gain is something new, it isn’t). You can read a good book about Long Term Capital Management’s fail: When Genius Failed.
Related: Warren Buffett’s Annual Report – Great Advice from Warren Buffett – Misuse of Statistics, Mania in Financial Markets – Investing Books
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Buy American. I Am. by Warren Buffett:
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A simple rule dictates my buying: Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful. And most certainly, fear is now widespread, gripping even seasoned investors. To be sure, investors are right to be wary of highly leveraged entities or businesses in weak competitive positions. But fears regarding the long-term prosperity of the nation’s many sound companies make no sense.
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Let me be clear on one point: I can’t predict the short-term movements of the stock market. I haven’t the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month — or a year — from now. What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turns up.
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Today people who hold cash equivalents feel comfortable. They shouldn’t. They have opted for a terrible long-term asset, one that pays virtually nothing and is certain to depreciate in value. Indeed, the policies that government will follow in its efforts to alleviate the current crisis will probably prove inflationary and therefore accelerate declines in the real value of cash accounts.
Equities will almost certainly outperform cash over the next decade, probably by a substantial degree.
Yet more great advice from Warren Buffett. I must admit I think buying stocks from the USA and elsewhere is wise, but there isn’t any reason to listen to me instead of him.
Related: Financial Markets Continue Panicky Behavior – Great Advice from Warren Buffett – Stock Market Decline – Warren Buffett’s 2004 Annual Report – Does a Declining Stock Market Worry You?
Warren Buffett quotes from the interview:
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- “AIG would be doing fine today if they never heard of derivatives… I said they were possibly financial weapons of mass destruction and they have been, I mean they destroyed AIG, they certainly contributed to the destruction of Bear Stearns and Lehman”
- The biggest single cause was that we had an incredible residential real estate bubble.
- [on consuming more than we are producing] I don’t think it is the most pressing problem at all. We are trading away a little bit of our country all the time for the excess consumption that we have, over what we produce. That is not good. I think it is terrible over time.
Related: Warren Buffett related posts – Credit Crisis Continues – Credit Crisis (August 2007)
I give more credence to Warren Buffett’s thoughts on this than anyone else, though, of course, he could be wrong. Buffett: My fix for the economy
Buffett, the chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A), called the problems facing world markets “unprecedented” and warned of a “disaster” if Congress does not move faster to shore up the economy.
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Under Buffett’s plan, Treasury would lend hedge funds, Wall Street firms or any other investors 80% of the price for distressed assets. Investors would benefit from borrowing at lower rates available to the Treasury. But the government would get first claim on the sale of those assets, which means it would get its loan back plus interest and possibly turn a profit. Only then would investors see a penny.
“Now you have someone with 20% skin in the game,” explained Buffett. “Believe me, I won’t be overpaying if I’m buying with that kind of leverage. And you have someone [the investors] to manage the assets to the extent they need to be managed.”
Buffett also noted that the presence of the government in the transactions would raise the price of assets above the absolute firesale levels for which they could now be sold. That would benefit the banks trying to unload them.
It is a mess. And politicians should be held accountable for eliminating regulation (through law changes, political appointees that were chosen specifically to not enforce regulations, restricting money for enforcement…) to reward those that paid them a lot of money. But they won’t be, so there you go. I would love to be wrong about that but I don’t think I will.
Related: 2005 annual meeting with Buffett and Munger – Misuse of Statistics, Mania in Financial Markets – General Air Travel Taxes Subsidizing Private Plane Airports – Central Bank Intervention Unprecedented in scale and Scope (March 2008)
Every year at the Berkshire Hathaway Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger provide great insights on investing and the economy. Here are some thought from today – Buffett to investors: Think small
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“Overall I think that the U.S. continues to follow policies that will make the dollar weaken against other major currencies
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Asked what’s in store for the economy, Buffett said he doesn’t have a clue and doesn’t care. “I haven’t the faintest idea,” he said. “We never talk about it, it never comes up in our board meetings or other discussions. We’re not in that business [of economic forecasting], we don’t know how to be in that business. If we knew where the economy was going, we’d do nothing but play the S&P futures market.”
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In terms of the [chief] investment officer, the board has four names, any one or all of whom would be good at my job. They all are happy where they are now [working outside of Berkshire], but any would be here tomorrow if I died tonight, they all are reasonably young, and compensation would not be a big factor…. There will be no gap after my death in terms of having someone manage the money.
Related: Live From Omaha 2007 – Buffett’s 2008 Letter to Shareholders – 2005 annual meeting with Buffett and Munger – Why Investing is Safer Overseas
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As usual, Warren Buffett’s letter to shareholders is packed with wisdom. Berkshire Hathaway 2007 Letter to Shareholders:
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This deal was done in the way Jay would have liked. We arrived at a price using only Marmon’s financial statements, employing no advisors and engaging in no nit-picking. I knew that the business would be exactly as the Pritzkers represented, and they knew that we would close on the dot, however chaotic financial markets might be. During the past year, many large deals have been renegotiated or killed entirely. With the Pritzkers, as with Berkshire, a deal is a deal.
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Charlie and I look for companies that have a) a business we understand; b) favorable long-term economics; c) able and trustworthy management; and d) a sensible price tag. We like to buy the whole business or, if management is our partner, at least 80%. When control-type purchases of quality aren’t available, though, we are also happy to simply buy small portions of great businesses by way of stock market purchases….
A truly great business must have an enduring “moat” that protects excellent returns on invested capital. The dynamics of capitalism guarantee that competitors will repeatedly assault any business “castle” that is earning high returns. Therefore a formidable barrier such as a company’s being the lowcost producer (GEICO, Costco) or possessing a powerful world-wide brand (Coca-Cola, Gillette, American Express) is essential for sustained success. Business history is filled with “Roman Candles,†companies whose moats proved illusory and were soon crossed.
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Susan came to Borsheims 25 years ago as a $4-an-hour saleswoman. Though she lacked a managerial background, I did not hesitate to make her CEO in 1994. She’s smart, she loves the business, and she loves her associates. That beats having an MBA degree any time. (An aside: Charlie and I are not big fans of resumes. Instead, we focus on brains, passion and integrity.
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I should emphasize that we do not measure the progress of our investments by what their market prices do during any given year. Rather, we evaluate their performance by the two methods we apply to the businesses we own. The first test is improvement in earnings, with our making due allowance for industry conditions. The second test, more subjective, is whether their “moats†– a metaphor for the superiorities they possess that make life difficult for their competitors – have widened during the year.
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You will recall that in our catastrophe insurance business, we are always ready to trade increased volatility in reported earnings in the short run for greater gains in net worth in the long run.
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The U.S. dollar weakened further in 2007 against major currencies, and it’s no mystery why: Americans like buying products made elsewhere more than the rest of the world likes buying products made in the U.S. Inevitably, that causes America to ship about $2 billion of IOUs and assets daily to the rest of the world. And over time, that puts pressure on the dollar.
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What is no puzzle, however, is why CEOs opt for a high investment assumption: It lets them report higher earnings. And if they are wrong, as I believe they are, the chickens won’t come home to roost until long after they retire.
A must read for all investors.
Related: Buffett Letter to Shareholders (from last year) – Live From Omaha (2007) – Overview of Warren Buffett